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POOR WIFE
A CONVERSATION WITH THE CHEAPEST MAN IN AMERICA
by Jason Zasky
Jeff Yeager's
wife, Denise, knows better than anyone how frugal her husband can
be. This is a man who soft-boils his eggs in the dishwasher (with
the dirty dishes), funnels box wine into premium-label bottles and
serves it to dinner guests, and has even attempted to make a sweater
out of dryer lint. For most of the couple's 24 years of marriageor
"three-and-a-half good years," as Denise jokesher hubby's
miserly ways were familiar only to family and friends. Then Today
show host Matt Lauer referred to Yeager, 50, as the "ultimate cheapskate,"
and he became known to millions as the cheapest man in America.
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Jeff
Yeager, author of "The Ultimate Cheapskate's Road Map to
True Riches"
Photo courtesy of Jeff Yeager |
Now our "Commander
in Cheap" has written a book"The Ultimate Cheapskate's
Road Map to True Riches: A Practical (and Fun) Guide to Enjoying
Life by Spending Less" (Broadway)in which he unabashedly reveals
many of his quirky, money-saving tips. While the book's tone is
lighthearted, Yeager's underlying messagethat Americans would
enjoy life a lot more if they learned to spend and consume lessis
decidedly serious.
Failure
spoke to Yeager at his Accokeek, Maryland home to gain further insight
into his less-is-more approach to personal finance. Among other
things, we discussed his concept of "fiscal fasting," why he chose
to do his book tour by bicycle, and whether he'll change his lifestyle
if he becomes a wealthy, successful author.
At Failure
we don't often interview self-described losers. Why do you characterize
yourself that way?
[Laughs]. Throughout the book, particularly with the term
"cheapskate" and to a lesser extent "loser," I'm trying to capture
people's attention and at the same time redefine those terms. I
view "cheapskate" as being the polar opposite of "conspicuous consumer."
Conspicuous consumers are folks who spend and consume trying to
impress other people. I want cheapskate to refer to folks who are
too self-confident and too smart to buy and consume stuff they don't
need.
How did you
become recognized as the cheapest man in America?
[In 2005] I entered a contest sponsored by [Washington Post personal
finance columnist] Michelle Singletary in which she was looking
for "Penny Pincher of the Year." I didn't win the $50 top prize,
but Today heard about my entry from Singletary and invited
me on the show. That led to the book.
How is "The
Ultimate Cheapskate's Road Map …" different from most personal finance
books?
I spent 25 years working in the non-profit sector and because of
my background I don't profess to know a lot about making money.
It's fair to say that at least 80 percent of all personal finance
books are about how to earn more money so you can buy more stuff.
In my opinion, those books are great fictional readsand that's
all they are. Everyone wants to believe they can make more money,
and the most fictional part is that that will make you happy.
But my advice
can be practiced by almost everybody because everyone can spend
and consume wisely and consciously. People think it's about sacrifice,
but it's really about choice. Because of the choices I've made I
have much more comfort and peace of mind knowing that I'm not in
debt. I have much more freedom knowing that I'm not a slave to a
high spending lifestyle. Most importantly, I have much more free
time because I'm not trading all my time for money. I've used "more"
three times now, so how is it about less? I guess I own a bit less
crap than other people.
Tell me about
your book tour.
This is my first book, so I had no prior experience doing a book
tour. The publisher told me it would make sense to fly to cities
like Phoenix and Miami and do a traditional tour. But I wanted to
do something in keeping with the book. So I decided to do the Tour
de Cheapskatea book tour by bicycle. I am cycling from city
to city and wherever possible I am staying in the homes of local
folks. Then I am taking what I save off the per diem that the publisher
provides and donating it to local libraries. So far I have cycled
1,200 miles and I've raised/saved a little more than two thousand
dollars.
Consider the
beauty of what I just described: First, we're getting far more publicity
than had we done a traditional tour. Second, I'm happy because I'm
out there cycling, meeting people, and frankly, getting a lot of
fodder for future books. And third, rather than spending moneythe
$250 a dayon Hilton and Avis, we're giving it to local libraries.
Everybody wins.
How do you
find the locals that are putting you up on the road?
A few months ago I put out a call via my Web site [ultimatecheapskate.com]
looking for fellow cheapskates who might be interested in putting
me up and a couple hundred folks contacted me. I also mentioned
the Tour de Cheapskate on Today and immediately got another
hundred-plus invitations.
I also use the
Web site couchsurfing.com. It's a network of about a half-million
people around the world who will put you up on their couchfor
free. Obviously, no one is under any obligation to put you up, but
it's one of those networking things where you get to know people
and connect with them. I've stayed with over a dozen couchsurfing
folks and every experience has been terrific. Of course, I'm generally
staying with people for a night or two, so we've not had a chance
to get tired of each other [laughs].
Again, the point
I'm trying to make is that being a cheapskate as I define it isn't
about sacrificeit's about a choice for a better quality of
life. If I spend $200 a night to stay at a hotel, will I remember
that later in life? Every couchsurfing person I've stayed with has
become a real friend. So I save $200 a night, but that's not the
real value. It comes back to the basic premise of my book: The quality
of your life and your happiness will increase if you spend and consume
less.
Have your
hosts taught you any compelling methods for saving money?
It's funny but when you say you're a cheapskate everybody sort of
bristles initially. Then they want to challenge you for the title.
A lot of people say, "You've got to come and stay with us. We're
the cheapest people around."
There was a
guy out in the desert west of Phoenix who invited me in part because
he had built his house out of straw bales and it had a dirt floor.
Doesn't that sound awful? But I got there and it was a beautiful
house. The straw bales were in fact the insulation for an adobe
style plaster house and the dirt floor was the desert floor polished
with linseed oil.
Speaking
of being cheap, some of your money-saving techniques seem pretty
extreme.
I'm the country's cheapest man. I have a reputation to uphold.
Is it really
possible to soft-boil eggs in the dishwasher?
Yes, I did a bunch of work on this. You can also soft-boil an egg
in the basket with your coffee grounds.
And did you
really try to make a sweater out of dryer lint?
[Laughs]. I've done a lot of work with dryer lint. A while
back I was on Wisconsin Public Radio and almost as a joke I said,
"If anybody else is working on this problem about what to do with
dryer lint please contact me." Immediately I had a dozen emails
from people in Wisconsin saying, "This is what I do with it." One
person said they mixed it with petroleum jelly to make fire starters.
Are there
any big picture money-saving tactics you'd like to talk about?
One of the more practical parts of my book goes to this issue of
discretionary spending. I once heard a home organization expert
say that 80 percent of the discretionary stuff we buy goes unused
or underutilized. His point was that if we are more organized we
can make better use of what we have. My contention is: Let's figure
out what that 80 percent is and then don't buy it.
The other day
I heard a similar statisticthat 80 percent of what we buy,
within a year we regret that we bought it. If we buy it and don't
use it or we buy it and regret it, how is it increasing our happiness?
That's why I
encourage people to wait at least a weekmy mandatory waiting
periodbefore making a purchase. At least 50 percent of the
time you never go back. And a lot of times when you do go back you
say, "What? I was going to buy this?" This is one of the few things
we can do as consumers to battle back against the 3,000 commercial
messages we hear every day.
Well, the
American economy is built on consumer spending.
I'm starting to get this backlash with people insisting, "If we
don't buy stuff then everything collapses." I have a hard time believing
that the Ultimate Cheapskate, working out of his garage, is capable
of bringing the U.S. economy to its knees.
That said, I
believe that current rates of spending and consumption in the U.S.
are unsustainable. But nobody wants to hear that, which is why I
deliver the message with a laugh track. But if you believe that
we're spending and consuming too much, then wouldn't a gradual ratcheting
back of that behavior be better than a cataclysmic collapse sometime
in the future?
I'm not saying
the current economic slowdown is a good thing, but during the leadup
to this slowdown what happened? Americans went further into debt
than any generation since the Great Depression and by most standards
we became less happy than previous generations. So perhaps a scaling
back wouldn't be so bad.
Tell me about
fiscal fasting.
Fiscal fasting involves going for a week or more without spending
any money. A fiscal fast will do three things: First, you'll save
some money. Second, it will show you how you spendand probably
wastemoney during a normal week. Third, it will remind you
that there are many things in life that don't cost a nickel.
Since the book
came out a lot of readers have emailed me and said they have actually
done this. Most often they say, "I didn't think it could be done,"
but then by day three or four they realize it isn't that difficult,
and by the end of the week they start feeling guilty about how much
they spend and consume every week.
I think it goes
to this issue of abundance and how much we have. In our society
you don't have to stop and think about it, but if you do, you're
shocked.
How do you
feel about the spending habits of the Bush administration?
I try to not get involved with political discussions because, for
one, I can't take it anymore. I have very strong political views,
but that's not what I write about. However, I once worked for a
non-profitthe Partnership for Public Servicethat was
trying to get good people to go into public service, including government
service. Even though I'm the cheapest man in America I think by
and large the money we spend on government is a good investment.
When I pay a plumber, which I rarely do, it strikes me that it costs
way too much. But when I drive on roads paid for by tax dollars
it seems like that is a good thing.
Does your
wife often complain about your frugal ways?
I'm in the doghouse with her right now because we're having this
cold snap and I have this apparatus on the thermostat so you can't
turn it up too high. This morning she said, "For goodness sake,
Jeff, I can see my breath in the kitchen." I said, "Oh, great, I
can unplug the refrigerator because it's cold enough now."
All kidding
aside, it's a great relationship. We share many of the same views
on money.
What happens
if you become a big-time author and begin earning a lot of money
from your writing?
I don't know how to respond to that. It's not that I don't like
money it's just that I'm ambivalent about it. I wasn't motivated
to write the book by money, nor have I made a lot of money off of
it. All I can say is that if someone drops a bunch of money on me,
I really believe that my life would not change at all. 
RECOMMENDED
LINKS
http://www.ultimatecheapskate.com
(Official Web site for "The Ultimate Cheapskate's Road Map
to True Riches")
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