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SPATIALLY CHALLENGED
FAILURE INTERVIEWS GREG KLERKX, AUTHOR OF "LOST IN SPACE,"
ABOUT THE FALL OF NASA AND THE PROSPECTS FOR A NEW SPACE AGE
by Jason Zasky
Once upon
a time, Americans were captivated by space venturesthe country's
collective interest peaking in 1969 with the first Moon landing.
But in the ensuing 35 years, the Space Age has come and gone and
when Columbia burned up in February of 2003 few Americans
were even aware that a shuttle mission had been in progress. In
the new book "Lost In Space: The Fall of NASA and the Dream of a
New Space Age" (Pantheon), author Greg Klerkxformer director
of the SETI (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) Instituteattempts
to explain why government-sponsored space projects no longer capture
the public's imagination.
Ironically,
Klerkx identifies the National Aeronautics and Space Agency (NASA)with
its myriad political and financial interestsas being largely
responsible. Yet Klerkx doesn't focus on assigning blame for this
state of affairs. In fact, he argues that a new Space Age may be
on the horizon, as a burgeoning private space industry has quietly
been filling the void left by NASA. Recently, Failure interviewed
Klerkx about the past, present and future of space travel.
What motivated
you to write "Lost In Space"?
A few different things converged to the point where I felt I needed
to do something more than simply grouse about my own upset. One
was my own long lingering hope for a human Space Agebased
on my childhood expectations of Apollo and other things that were
promised in the wake of that. Also working at the SETI Institute,
I got the chance to get a firsthand look at the space program in
a way that most people don't. I think the combination of those two
things led me to a couple of conclusions. One is that the reason
human space flight hasn't moved further is not technologicalit's
largely political. That's not necessarily a "stop-the-presses" conclusion,
but the source of the political problems was a surprisethat
it was NASA, the organization that most think is charged with moving
space flight forward.
"If
the shuttle keeps flying we will lose another one. I'm very confident
in making that statement and a lot of other people would agree."
In the book
you distinguish between the "paper" NASA and the "real" NASA. Can
you explain the difference?
The "paper" part is the vision that is spun to the public in order
to keep them interested in the idea of space flight. The "real"
part is the actual motivation for much of NASA's businessthat
is, simply keeping dollars flowing to the agency from tried-and-true
sources. It's not to say that everyone in the agency is so cynical
as to not be interested in space. But at the leadership level there's
definitely an understanding that NASA employs a lot of peoplenot
only directly as a civilian agency but also via its contracts. Over
80 percent of NASA's funding15 to 16 billion dollars
a yearconsistently goes to outside contractors. That's
a lot of money, a lot of jobs and a lot of congressional districts.
So the "real" NASA is all about making sure that those jobs stay
in place and that money still comes in. The idea of doing something
competitively, economically or in concert with a larger vision doesn't
necessarily flow from the idea of keeping the money coming in. The
"paper" NASA is all about spitting ideas out: "We're going to be
building colonies in space; we'll be sending people to the Moon
and Mars." People like the ideas, but very few of those things get
translated into the "real" NASA.
Most readers
would be surprised at how critical you are of the space programand
how poor the safety prospects are for future shuttle missions. Won't
the Columbia disaster implore NASA to be extra cautious when
it comes to safety?
It probably will make NASA extra cautious, but I don't think caution
is really what's behind the shuttle's problem. If you look at the
organization it takes about 20,000 people just to make a shuttle
flight happen. Certainly, if you can't make a flight safe with 20,000
people and about half-a-billion dollars per flight behind it you
have to wonder if this vehicle is one that ought to be used. The
real issue is that the shuttle can never be safe enough to meet
the safety parameters that a space vehicle ought to meet. That's
because it was a hodge-podge design. We would be much better off
using something much simplersuch as the Russian Soyuz
capsule and an expendable rocket. It has a much better safety record
and is much less expensive.
What did
CAIB [the Columbia Accident Investigation Board] find?
Its report was fairly hard-hitting in that it was critical of NASA
[for] ignoring the problem that they think caused Columbia
to be destroyeda large chunk of insulating foam breaking
off the main fuel tank and hitting the leading edge of the wing.
So when the shuttle orbiter re-entered [the atmosphere] hot plasma
came in through the wing and basically burned its way through the
vehicle and caused it to disintegrate. The board said NASA should
have paid more attention to reports from engineers and also [the
fact] that the problem was evident on previous flights. But the
upshot of the Columbia report was this: It said, "As soon
as NASA has something new it ought to replace the shuttle." Well,
there have a number of "something new's" that have been in the works
for the past 25 years, and although a fair bit of money has been
spent on these vehicles none of them have ever flown. In the book
I say that one of the reasons why NASA is so loathe to give up the
shuttle is because it was so hard to get in the first place. In
the late sixties and early seventies NASA needed a new vehicle,
wanted a new vehicle, wanted something to keep the jobs in place.
Having gotten that gravy train they don't want to jeopardize it
by saying, "Right, we're going to terminate the vehicle at 'X' date,
regardless of whether or not we have a new vehicle." What you have
in place now with the Bush Administration mandate [a new space policy
directive] is basically a timeline to get rid of the shuttle. It's
supposed to be gone by 2010, irrespective of whether or not there's
a new launch vehicle. However, that date has already slipped within
NASA and I suspect it's going to slip a lot further because you
have the same sort of political motivation in place to keep it going.
What is your
reaction to the recent news that the shuttle gears were installed
backwards? Was that an accurate media report?
It was an accurate report. But I don't make too much of that because
when you have a vehicle which has in the neighborhood of three million
independent parts, every now and then something will be installed
backwards. But the larger issue that report speaks to is the over-complexity
of the shuttle. This is its fundamental problem. In the book I talk
about one case where there was a shuttle upgrade and they removed
thousands of pounds of wiring that wasn't even being used. It's
what they call a "multi-generational vehicle" that is just too complicated
for the task, and if the shuttle keeps flying we will lose another
one. I'm very confident in making that statement and a lot of other
people would agree.
Has the thrill
of human space travel been lost? And if so, why?
I think it has been lost in the broader culture. There are certainly
pockets of people in society who are very interested in human space
flight and obviously I am [in] one of those pockets. The Space Age
is no longer with usthat may be the easiest way to
put it. The reason is because at its core the Space Age was geo-politically
motivatedit was about beating the Soviets in space.
Once that happened with the Moon landing people turned their attention
elsewhere. I would call NASA and its political minders to task for
that because rather than find a new way to engage people they simply
tried harder to engage them in the same old wayby saying
that we have this competition with other countries. People saw through
that very quickly. That's part of the reason that interest in space
declined as rapidly as it did and it really hasn't recovered. I
do think there's hope for recovery but I'm not sure it's going to
come through NASA.
What are
the prospects for future human space exploration?
They are reasonably good but we are in a very critical window of
change. We have a new presidential mandate for NASA to send people
back to the moonby roughly 2015and then
on to Mars. There have been presidential mandates in the past, of
course. Bush senior had such a mandate in 1989 and Ronald Reagan
had one in 1986. They didn't come to much. Certainly, after announcing
his space plan in January the current President Bush backed away
from it publicly. But behind the scenes NASA's leadership is working
very hard to try to change the agency to make it more worthy of
this mission and more worthy of public interest. I think if I was
NASA's leadership I would be looking at the two shuttle disasters,
looking at the public and political response, seeing this mandate
and saying, "If we don't change now we may not have a future." It
will be a very interesting couple of years to see if NASA continues
to do business the same old way or whether it does some things differently.
At the same
time, you have for the first time, a very robust private space sector.
A number of companies are developing launch vehicles and satellites,
and you have the X Prize®. Ten years ago this sector was embryonic.
Now it's maturing and I think within the next year you will see
the first flight of a privately developed manned spacecraft. That
could be the beginning of something very interesting. I think it's
one of those cases of "watch this space," as they say.
Can you explain
what the X Prize is?
The X Prize is a prize of ten million dollars that will be given
to the first team that can send a privately developed manned spacecraft
to suborbital altitudesabout 62 miles above the earth.
[The winner must] send three people up to suborbital altitudes,
come back down safely, and then do it again in the same vehicle
within two weeks. The X Prize was conceived by a group of St. Louis
businessmen who were inspired by something called the Orteig Prize,
which was what spurred Charles Lindbergh to cross the Atlantic to
Paris in 1927. Their idea was, "We want to see the development of
the private manned space flight industry. Maybe we need to do something
like this, which helped develop commercial passenger aviation."
The X Prize has been around since 1996 and there are a number of
companies competing. A company called Scaled Composites (SC) in
the Mojave desert is definitely at the forefront but there are a
couple of others that have done test-runs of engines and test-flights
of vehicles.
"If
I were a betting man, I would say by this time next year we will
have seen the first successful flight of a private manned spacecraft."
What companies
are at the leading edge of the space tourism industry?
Space tourism is just one aspect of the private space sector. It's
certainly the one that gets the most attention because it's the
most extreme in terms of human experience. There's a company called
Space Adventures which is really a tourism company. As far as launch
vehicles go, SC has actually test-flown what they hope will be the
winner of the X Prize. In Europe, there's a company called Orbital
Express which is developing a robotic spacecraft to service satellites
in orbit and may well be developing a craft that will help keep
the Hubble space telescope alive for a while. These are all different
aspects of this private space sector. I think ten years ago the
private space sector was only about developing rockets and
there was the hope that eventually it would send people into space.
But now it's much more diverse, the players are more savvy, and
the technology is much more advanced. It's a viable sector at this
point.
So you think
the likelihood of private suborbital space flight becoming a reality
soon is realistic?
I think it's absolutely realistic, not only because of what SC has
done. Again, they have test-flown what they call SpaceShipOne;
they have flown it past Mach 2, and they have flown it over 100,000
feet. Also, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)which
regulates commercial space flight in this countryhas
recently issued its first commercial license for a private manned
space vehicle and they gave it to SC. That is a very big development
because prior to that, companies like SC were really flying blind.
Even if they were able to develop the vehicle they didn't know whether
they could send anybody up in it. So the FAA is saying, "Yes, this
is something we need to look at and regulate," and they've done
that.
Do you have
any idea what the timeline might look like? Wasn't Space Adventures'
first flight supposed to have taken place several years ago?
The timelines have definitely slipped. But the game changed when
SC got involved because it's a company that has a very distinguished
track record developing aircraft and also helping NASA with the
development of its spacecraft. It's not a fly-by-night entrepreneurial
company, which is how most of the X Prize contestants were characterized
prior to SC coming on board. If I were a betting man, I would say
by this time next year we will have seen the first successful flight
of a private manned spacecraft. I think it's that close.
If space
tourism became a reality do you think that would inspire a new Space
Age?
I think it would, because what got people excited about space travel
back in the fifties and sixties were two different ideas. One was
that space exploration was going to be the next phase of grand exploratory
adventures. So people were excited about thatthis idea
of the final frontier. But the other thing that was a great motivator
was this idea that everybody would eventually get to be a space
traveler. You might not get to go to the Moon, you might not get
to go to Mars, but maybe you'd get to go into orbit and get a perspective
on your life and home planet that you wouldn't otherwise have. This
was something that was a very strong motivator. During the sixties
in particular it was very much in the culture and in the media coverage
of space travel. I think that aspect of space interest got lost
very quickly when after Apollo it became clear to people that NASA
and its partners were going to do nothing to get the average person
into space. That's what has been lost in terms of interest in space
travel. It's really a demonstration sport. If you started to see
a popular space tourism industry you might actually revitalize broader-ranging
exploration because people would say, "This has some relevance to
my life."
Would you
explain what SETI does?
SETI uses large radios and telescopes connected to high-powered
computers to scan distant star systems to see if there is any evidence
of communications technology that might be similar to what we've
produced on earth. It's a long distance way of trying to detect
whether there are other civilizations in the galaxy.
In the book
you argue that SETI is misunderstood. Why?
I think it's because SETI is about discovering extra-terrestrial
life, and in pop culture that is a very charged idea. You can think
of everything from E.T. to Independence Day. Because
SETI was originally funded via NASA and Congress, there were some
congressmen who found it a very easy target for cost cutting. They
said, "Why are we paying for a search for little green men?" It
really wasn't that sort of thing and it was fairly low-cost, as
well. But back in the early nineties when things were a little tight
budget-wise Congress said, "Yeah, let's just cut this program."
Ever sinceeven though SETI has been revived by private
fundingit has had to fight the perception that it's
a hunt for little green men. Really, it's solidly based in astrophysics
and computer science.
What exactly
has SETI found?
Nothing yet. But it's a big galaxy. And it's a fairly slow search
process. SETI scientists will admit that they may never find anything
or that it may take decades, if not longer. But if you're going
to be a scientist you have to be patient. These scientists are the
most patient I have ever met. 
RECOMMENDED
LINKS
http://www.xprize.org (Official
Web site of the X Prize)
http://www.scaled.com (Official
Web site of Scaled Composites)
http://www.seti.org
(Official Web site of the SETI Institute)
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